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you know we've let him off a couple of times maybe we should do something i don't know whether they work on a cumulative basis like that or they just look at every case individually well we used to have the carryover points didn't we but that they obviously got rid of those characters in some cases though he may not have had points i have looked at it and thought it's not strong enough to find anymore but if you secure that sort of stuff where you yeah do you then get points so look well i think we need ample here with tom lynch sailing wind come on just fine in the end find a new hi yes uh this uh coming and then forward that that gave collins a bit of a whack as he ran off and then columns i kind of the num the names escaped me but sam collins went down something going on yeah or is it still early days and you're enjoying family time at the moment he is seven weeks old now and i have