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standby utter guard I'll attach hoop or hooked [Music] Jack Nicholson's version to jokah become an icon a seminal performance to find somebody's willing to try and redo that in a completely different way the inevitable comparisons that would result that was quite a challenge we had a few conversations he met with a few other actors for that role and surprisingly some people were like they didn't want to go up against the Jack Nicholson you know shoes they were afraid and intimidated by that and so we also knew it was going to take somebody courageous to kind of fill those shoes and go up against what was in everybody's head [Applause] about all kinds of different philosophical ideas behind the Joker an anarchy and chaos um what he would represent and Heath was just ready to do it he was ready to do something that was that big I'll settle for his loved one so after that first meeting it