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[Music] in this edition of in the trenches with dave lapham brought to you by first star logistics we catch up with a man that there's not enough hours in the day 24 hours just doesn't cut it this time of year duke tobin director of player personnel for the cincinnati bengals who tell you what the injuries on the edge the edge rushers are going down like flies tell you it's it's a it's a never-ending process evaluating trying to get players to come to cincinnati and backfill that roster hopefully they're over the hump and the injury hex is over with the black cloud moves on maybe moves to another franchise although i don't wish injury or ill will on any franchise you want to see all players have productive seasons and careers and uh duke tobin he's done a great job for the bengals for a few years we're gonna catch up with him and i think you're gonna like what you hear welcome to in the